Let's talk about the Democratic Convention.
So you won the ratings war in the last night. Hillary Clinton's speech...
By millions, George. By millions.
million, it's true.
Hillary Clinton's speech 22 direct mentions of your name, 78 references, very tough, including this one hit on your temperament.
A man you can bait with a Tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons.
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She quoted Jackie Kennedy suggesting you're a little man moved by
fear and pride.
She's a very dishonest person. I have one of the great temperaments. I have a winning temperament. She has a bad temperament. She's weak. We need a strong
temperament and that's all it is, I have a strong temperament. And...
But there are...
I do know how to win.
polls do show some concern about this, that whether you
can be trusted with the nuclear codes.
Well, I think that's probably because Hillary, that's all they talk about is temperament. I think I have a great temperament. I beat
16 very talented people in and I've never done this before. You don't do that with a bad temperament.
I'm leading her in the polls, as you probably have noticed. And I
think I have a great temperament.
I have a temperament where I know how to win. She doesn't know how to win. She's not a winner. She doesn't know how to win.
lies a lot and she really she should tell the truth. I honestly believe if she told the truth because she made some reference to my campaigning, I've had a beautiful
I've had a had a flawless campaign. You'll be writing books about this campaign. And yet she's criticizing my campaign.
Now, her campaign, she couldn't beat Bernie,
Well, she did beat him.
Well, barely. And there's questions even about that. But barely. And if you look at what's going on in terms of unity, the Bernie people are
angry. They're angry. He was angry.
What was amazing to me is when she was talking about Bernie last night, the camera was on him and he was angry. It almost looks like
he has buyer's remorse, like he shouldn't have made the deal.
Let's talk about Russia. You made a lot of headlines with Russia this week.
What exactly is your
relationship with Vladimir Putin?
I have no relationship to with him. I have no relationship with him.
But if you have no relationship with Putin, then why did you say in
2013, I do have a relationship. In 2014, I spoke...
Because he has said nice things about me over the years. I remember years ago, he said something many years ago, he
said something very nice about me. I said something good about him when Larry King was on. This was a long time ago. And I said he is a tough cookie or something to that
He said something nice about me. This has been going on. We did "60 Minutes" together. By the way, not together-together, meaning he was probably shot in
Well, he was in Moscow...
and I was shot in New York.
you were in New York. But that's the thing.
No, just so you understand, he said very nice things about
me, but I have no relationship with him. I don't I've never met him.
Yet you said for three years, '13, '14 and '15, that you did have a relationship with him.
what what do you call a relationship?
I'm asking you.
with great respect. I have no relationship with Putin. I don't think I've ever met him. I never met him. I don't
think I've ever met him.
You would know if you did.
I think so.
I mean if he...
Yes, I think so. So I've I don't think I've ever met him. I mean if he's in the same room
or something. But I don't think so.
You never spoke to him on the phone?
I've been in Moscow. I didn't meet him in Moscow.
You've never spoken to him on the
I have never spoken to him on the phone, no. I've speak I've spoken when we had the Miss Universe contest a number of years ago, we had Miss Universe in Moscow,
in the Moscow area, he was invited. He wanted to come. He wasn't able to come.
That would have been a time when I would have met him.
But a I just want to clear this up,
because you did say on three different occasions you had a relationship with him. Now you say there is not.
Well, I don't know what it means by having a relationship. I
mean he was saying very good things about me, but I don't have a relationship with him. I didn't meet him. I haven't spent time with him. I didn't have dinner with him. I
didn't go hiking with him. I don't know and I wouldn't know him from Adam except I see his picture and I would know what he looks like.
Vice President Biden told me this
week that Vladimir Putin wants to beat Hillary and Madeleine Albright said that your victory would be a gift to Putin.
And what they're pointing to is things like your
statements about conditioning our commitments to NATO allies, softening the GOP platform on Ukraine, even considering softening sanctions and recognizing Russian
annexation of Crimea. They fear that that's going to hurt America and advance Russia's interests.
They only fear one thing, losing the election. If our country got along
with Russia, that would be a great thing. When Putin goes out and tells everybody and you talk about a relationship, but he says Donald Trump is going to win and Donald
Trump is a genius, and then I have people saying you should disavow. I said, I'm going to disavow that?
But when Putin says good things and when we have a possibility of
having a good relationship with Russia...
But if we have a good relationship...
his annexation of Crimea.
I'm not going to be mean to anybody.
George, you know me pretty well. I don't bow, OK. I don't bow.
But if we can have a good relationship with Russia and if Russia would help us get rid of ISIS, frankly, as
far as I'm concerned, you're talking about tremendous amounts of money and lives and everything else, that would be a positive thing, not a negative thing.
Even if that
means conditioning our commitments to NATO, as you said?
No, because you're not going to do that. NATO is going to be just fine. But NATO countries we have 28 countries
many of them are taking advantage of us because they're not paying. So we're protecting these countries and they're not paying.
And when people leave that last part in,
everybody agrees with me.
I'm all in favor of NATO. I said NATO is obsolete. I was asked a question by one of your competitors and I said NATO is obsolete, because it's
not taking care of terror. You understand that. And it turned out I was right. A lot of people gave me credit for that.
Then, three months ago, on the front page of "The
Wall Street Journal," they said NATO to develop a terror division. And somebody who's supposed to be very extraordinary was put in charge of it.
That was all because of
me. So I was right about that.
I was also right about the fact that NATO, we're being taken advantage of by NATO countries, totally advantage of (INAUDIBLE)...
did you soften the GOP platform on Ukraine?
I wasn't involved in that. Honestly, I was not involved.
Your people were.
Yes. I was not involved in that. I'd like to I'd
have to take a look at it. But I was not involved in that.
Do you know what they did?
They softened it, I heard, but I was not involved.
They took away the part of the
platform calling for the provision of lethal weapons to Ukraine to defend themselves.
Why is that a good idea?
Well, look, you know, I have my own ideas. He's not going
into Ukraine, OK?
Just so you understand. He's not going to go into Ukraine, all right?
You can mark it down and you can put it down, you can take it anywhere you
Well, he's already there, isn't he?
OK, well, he's there in a certain way, but I'm not there yet. You have Obama there. And frankly, that whole part of the world is
a mess under Obama, with all the strength that you're talking about and all of the power of NATO and all of this, in the meantime, he's going where he takes takes
Crimea, he's sort of I mean...
But you said you might recognize that.
I'm going to take a look at it. But, you know, the people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would
rather be with Russia than where they were. And you have to look at that, also.
Now, that was under just so you understand, that was done under Obama's administration.
And as far as the Ukraine is concerned, it's a mess. And that's under the Obama's administration, with his strong ties to NATO.
So with all of these strong ties to NATO,
Ukraine is a mess. Crimea has been taken. Don't blame Donald Trump for that.
You said that...
And we'll do better and yet we'll have a better relationship with Russia.
having a good relationship maybe. and having a good relationship with Russia is a good thing, not a bad thing.
You said you have no investments in Russia.
But do you owe
any money to Russian individuals and institutions?
The primary thing I did what Russia I bought a house in Palm Beach at a bankruptcy. It was a bankrupt, you
know, person. I bought it from the banks. I bought it for about $40 million. I sold it for $100 million to a Russian.
That was probably five years ago. And that was
You partner now with...
Now, well I sell...
Will I sell many years ago. I don't think they're Russian. I think there were other people,
but there were various partners.
Will I sell condos to Russians on occasion?
I mean I do that. I have a lot of condos. I do that. But I have no relationship to
No debts. I have very little debt to anybody. I don't need debt. You know, it's very interesting, I'm so liquid, I don't need debt. And if I
need debt, if I want debt, I can get it from banks in New York City very easily.
You know where I'm going to take this next. Americans could be assured on that if they
saw your tax returns.
My tax returns are very simple. They're under a minor audit, a routine audit, as they have been for many years. Every year I get audited.
don't know if you get audited but I have friends...
I've been audited.
who are very wealthy that never have been audited. I say you get audited. I get audited every
year. I'm under a routine audited like routine. And I've been for years, every year.
Is there something...
George, it is very simple. Yes, but they're all
linked. It's called the link.
It's very simple, if my audit is finished, that's great.
Now, I have to tell you. I watched Mitt Romney four years ago. He waited until
September to give them, just before the election. They made him look so bad, it was so unfair, I actually think he didn't lose because of the 47 percent, I think he lost
because of a couple of really minor items in tax return where he did nothing wrong. So it is unfair.
But I will say, when I'm finished with the audit, I'll do it.
Nixon released his even though his were under audit.
I don't use Richard Nixon as necessarily the guide, OK. I mean, you know, it's an interesting person to use, but don't
Mike Bloomberg very tough on you a the Democratic convention.
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Trump says he wants to run the nation like he's running his business? God help
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Called you a con man, reckless. Even seemed...
He doesn't know me well.
Michael Bloomberg, when he had a problem in Ferry Point, which is a massive
job where his administration was a mess, they couldn't get it built. They called me. I took it over. I got it done in a year.
Michael Bloomberg couldn't get elected as a
dogcatcher in New York.
In the past you said he was a great mayor.
Sure, he was good. But his last term was terrible. He did a terrible thing his last term. And frankly a
lot of people didn't like him. He spent a fortune to get elected. Shouldn't have gone to a third term. The snow removal was a disaster. He had a problems. Michael
Bloomberg had a big problem with Ferry Point in the Bronx. They called me. I made a deal. I took it over. I got it built. I got it open. It's open today. It's very
And think, personally, I think he made a deal with Hillary where he gets a job, because he'd like to because Michael Bloomberg has wanted to run for
president for probably as long as you have known him and guess what? He never had the guts to do it. And now I see this guy up on stage saying negative things. He knows
nothing about me. He's never been to my office. I don't know him well.
You played golf together.
Here's what he hit you on in the speech....
And I hit the
ball a lot longer, and a lot better.
He hit you for hypocrisy in the speech. For selling products overseas, gaming the visa system to hire foreign works at low wages. And
just this week BuzzFeed reported that Mar-a-Lago is putting out application for 78 more visas for foreign workers even though...
Should I tell you about it? Mara-a-Lago
is a very successful club in Palm Beach, Florida, the Mar-a-Lago club, and during the season, it's very, very hard to get employees.
The local employment agencies say
they have more than 1,000 people...
We interview and we have a lot of people. We come with a lot of people. But it's very, very hard to get people in Palm Beach during
the Palm Beach season. It's called the Palm Beach social season. And what we do is we sometimes we have to bring people in.
As far as product, our country doesn't make
product anymore. You have other countries devalue their currencies. They make it impossible. You look at suits and ties and shirts. You look at steel, you look at so many
different things, it's...
But our country does make those products, but you don't.
Very small. 3 percent of our product is made in apparel. And much of the material comes
It's very if you want to get a television today I buy thousands of television sets. If I want a television, I would love the buy American-made televisions
like they used to have where they had GE and Sylvania and all of the different. Today, it's Samsung, it's LG, it's Sony. We don't make televisions anymore.
But you're out
there saying other American companies must come and create jobs here, but you're not willing to do it yourself.
This is nothing new what you're saying. I talk about this
during my speech. When I do ties, I bid them out. And I go all over the place. You have companies over in different countries where they devalue their currency and they
make it impossible for American companies to compete.
The hat, Make America Great Again. I fought like crazy to find a company in this country that could make the hats.
And I found one. And they're American-made, but it's because I knew the first thing people would do is, where is the hat made. OK, Make America Great.
But it is very,
very hard for our companies to compete, because other company other countries and it's really the countries, other countries take advantage of us.
Here are numbers of
hiring of foreign workers. Since 2010, 300 U.S. applicants in Mar-a-Lago, 17 hired, more than 500 visa applications.
Well, you know what? I don't hire the people. But if
you look at all the other places in Palm Beach, they're all doing exactly the same thing. And you know why they're doing that? You know why they're doing that? Because you
can't get people, George.
What do you think a voter thinks when they hear you say I can't find American workers. I can't find American workers.
I think the voter
understand it, because they understand that you know, you're not reinventing the wheel here with these questions. These get asked all the time. I've been asked about
Mar-a-Lago. I have many other places where I don't have to do that, because you have a normal season.
Let's talk about debates. You can accept the recommendations of the
debate commission? Three debates, one VP debate?
Well, I tell you what I don't like, it's against two NFL games. I got a letter from the NFL saying this is ridiculous, why
are the debates against because the NFL doesn't want to go against the debates because the debates are going to be pretty massive, from what I understand.
And I don't
think we should be against the NFL. I don't know how the dates were picked. I don't know why those particular dates.
So, you don't like the dates that are out there.
I don't like dates against you know, Hillary Clinton wants to be against the NFL. She doesn't maybe like she did with Bernie Sanders where they were on Saturday nights
when nobody's home.
But they're against the NFL. I saw the dates. Two I think two of the three are against the NFL, so I'm not thrilled with that. But I like three
debates. I think that's fine. I think it's enough. Somebody said one debate, I would rather have three. I think they will be very interesting.
I don't know if you saw the
speech, but there's man named Khizr Khan, speaking at the Democratic convention last night. His son, Captain Humayun Khan, was killed serving in Iraq, and he had some very
tough questions for you.
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KHIZR KHAN, CAPT. HUMAYUN KHAN'S FATHER: Have you read the United States constitution? I will gladly lend you my copy. You
have sacrificed nothing and no one.
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He said you wouldn't have let his son in America.
He doesn't know he doesn't know that.
I saw him. He was, you know,
very emotional. And probably looked like a nice guy to me. His wife, if you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably maybe she
wasn't allowed to have anything to say. You tell me, but plenty of people have written that.
She was extremely quiet and looked like she had nothing to say. A lot of
people have said that.
And personally, I watched him. I wish him the best of luck, George.
What would you say to the father?
Well, I would say, we have had a lot of
problems with radical Islamic terrorism, that's what I'd say. We have had a lot of problems where you look at San Bernardino, you look at Orlando, you look at the World
Trade Center, you look at so many different things. You look at what happened to the priest over the weekend in Paris, where his throat was cut, 85-year-old, beloved
Catholic priest. You look at what happened in Nice, France, a couple of weeks ago.
I would say, you gotta take a look that, because something is going on, and it's not
He said you have sacrificed nothing and no one.
Well, that sounds who wrote that? Did Hillary's script writer write it? Because everybody that went out there we
also had John Allen, who failed with ISIS. I mean, he was a general General Allen he went out, and he's ranting and raving. And then I read a report. He was in there for
a number of months, and he failed with ISIS. And he's telling me, you know.
You saw Hillary say it last night, you don't know more than the generals.
Well, I tell you,
the generals aren't doing so well right now.
Now, I have a feeling it may be Obama's fault. But if you look at ISIS, General MacArthur, and General Patton, they're
spinning in their graves. The generals certainly aren't doing very well right now. And General Allen, after I saw he was on ranting and raving about me, who he never met,
I checked up. Guess what? They were not so happy with him. He didn't beat ISIS. He didn't beat ISIS. He didn't do well with ISIS.
How would you answer that father? What
sacrifice have you made for your country?
I think I have made a lot of sacrifices. I've work very, very hard. I've created thousands and thousands of jobs, tens of
thousands of jobs, built great structures. I've done I've had tremendous success.
Those are sacrifices?
Oh, sure. I think they're sacrifices.
I think when I can employ
thousands and thousands of people, take care of their education, take care of so many things. Even in the military, I mean, I was responsible along with a group of people
for getting the Vietnam Memorial built in downtown Manhattan, which to this day people thank me for.
I've raised millions of dollars for the vets. I'm helping the vets a
lot. I think my popularity with the vets is through the roof, far greater than hers. She's done nothing, all she's done is tell everybody that the vets are in good shape.
They're fine. And they're not fine. People are waiting in line for seven days to see a doctor.
100 days left, what's the number one thing you have to do?
I think that I
just want to continue to campaign the way I'm doing. I'm leaving here. I'm going to a speech that's packed with thousands of people. They're making, in many cases, less
money now, George, than they made 18 years ago. And they're working two jobs. They're working harder. They're older. And it's unfair.
Our country's a mess. And that's why
when she makes the speech, she doesn't talk about radical Islam. She doesn't talk about the problems that we have in this country and throughout the world. Many of the
problems, she caused. I mean, she created ISIS with her stupidity and her lack of knowledge with her bad judgment.
You know, Bernie Sanders said something about Hillary
Clinton that was very interesting. He said she had bad judgment, great words, bad judgment. You know what, she has bad judgment.
She has no instinct.
Final question. Are
you worried that the Democratic convention is going to bounce her ahead of you in the polls?
I don't know. I mean, look, I had a very big bounce. In fact, I think you even
said it was one of the biggest bounces in 20 years. It's been a long time since somebody had a bounce like that.
Look, I think the Republican convention was great or I
wouldn't have had the bounce that I had. As you said, I had 3 million people more than she had on the final night. She had a Thursday, I had a Thursday, she had a speech,
I had a speech, I had 3 million people more than she did. And I had a lot of people. There were a lot of people. I think I had 30 million. They had 27 million. I think
we're going to do very well in this election.
Mr. Trump, thanks for your time.
Thank you very much.
As we said, that was on Friday. And overnight, the
Trump campaign put out a statement responding to the controversy. Here's the statement.
Captain Humayun Khan was a hero to our country and we should honor all who have
made the ultimate sacrifice to keep our country safe. While I feel deeply for the loss of his son, Mr. Khan, who has never met me, has no right to stand in front of
millions of people and claim I have never read the Constitution, which is false, and say many other inaccurate things.
Mr. Trump also put out a tweet this morning. He
said that, "Captain Khan, killed 12 years ago, was a hero. But this is about radical Islamic terror and the weakness of our leaders to eradicate it."
And one other note:
the NFL has disputed a claim Mr. Trump made in the interview that the NFL wrote him a letter complaining about the presidential debate schedule.
An NFL representative
told us that was not true. And the Trump team responded to that overnight, saying that Trump was made aware of conflicting dates by a source close to the league.
come back, the Khan family responds to Mr. Trump. And the four-star general Trump called a failure is here live.
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